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<p id="speakable-summary" class="has-text-align-left wp-block-paragraph">AI lab <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/29/flapping-airplanes-and-the-promise-of-research-driven-ai/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Flapping Airplanes</a> just landed $180 million in seed funding from the likes of Google Ventures, Sequoia, and Index to do something most labs have quietly given up on: making models learn like humans instead of vacuuming up the internet. The founding team, made up of brothers Ben and Asher Spector and co-founder Aidan Smith, is betting that radically more data-efficient training could open the door to entirely new AI capabilities. </p>
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Today on TechCrunch’s <a href="https://techcrunch.com/podcasts/equity/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Equity</a> podcast, TechCrunch AI editor Russell Brandon sits down with all three founders to discuss why investors wrote such a large check for a lab with no product, what becomes possible with radically more efficient AI, and why they’re prioritizing creativity over credentials. </p>
<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Listen to the full episode to hear about: </p>
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<li class="wp-block-list-item">Why the Flapping Airplanes team is focused on research first, commercialization later </li>
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<li class="wp-block-list-item">What the “neolabs” generation means for AI development </li>
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<li class="wp-block-list-item">How they plan to make AI models 1,000x more data efficient. A hint? The team thinks the brain is “the floor, not the ceiling” for AI capabilities </li>
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